I ran across your information of the Tierney / Brophy / Fermoyle names on the 
Net just now. Also noted the "Ireland to Ottawa, Canada" subhead on the 
Bytown or Bust page.

My father (Francis Ernest Fermoyle) and grandfather (Francis "Frank" 
Fermoyle) were born in the Ottawa area. My great-grandfather, John Fermoyle 
(1825-1911), was one of 3 brothers who came over from Ireland circa 
1838-40, near as we can tell. His brother, Patrick & Michal (yes the 
prototype Irishmen, "Pat & Mike") came over about the same time but went to 
Boston.

John Fermoyle settled in Fallowfield and married Margaret Berrigan 
(1834-1877) sometime in the late 1850s. Margaret Berrigan was the daughter 
of John Berrigan and Anne Cummins, who emigrated from Ireland about 1832 
(one child was born aboard ship on the voyage), landed in Quebec and 
settled in Fallowfield.

My grandfarther, Frank, was the youngest child of John & Margaret, who died 
(I believe of TB) shortly after his birth. He was raised by her sister, Mary.

My father was the eldest son of Frank and Sarah Anne Coyle. He married 
Mary Ellen Kenny, born in Farrellton on the Gatinau River. I have three 
brothers and I am the eldest. I was born in Detroit but spent a lot of time 
in the Ottawa area during the 1930s and early 1940s. I have one aunt & many 
cousins still living there, and attended a small reunion in Kingston, Ont. 
in 1998. I spent several days in Ottawa also; an aunt (only surviving 
descendant of Frank Fermoyle & Sarah Ann Coyle) still lives there.

I have a lot of information on both the descendants of John Fermoyle and 
Margaret Berrigan, as well as what we call "the Boston Branch.

There is a lot of convergence of names. A cousin in Canada (Kingston, Ont.) 
has suggested that there is a connection with Brophy through marriage 
(could a Bridget & Julia be involved?). I know there has been a 
relationship somehow with Tierneys and Byrnes. My father had what he called 
a "half-cousin" named Jim Byrnes.

I haven't done any genealogy work for a couple of years now, so I'm a bit 
hazy on some of the details, but I have a fair amount of info entered in 
Family Tree Maker, copies of a lot of material collected and prepared by my 
Kingston cousin's father, plus detailed information on the Boston branch.

Perhaps we can help each other fill in some blanks in our respective family 
trees!

Regards,
Ken Fermoyle

From Taylor Kennedy on April 7, 2001:
Hi, Taylor (& Al)

At 12:19 AM 4/9/01 +0000, you wrote:

Hello Ken and Al
Ken, my name is Taylor Kennedy, decendent from the Kennedy's who 
farmed in Nepean, Carleton County, Concession III, lot number 16. This was 
200 acres split between William and his sons James and Thomas, and 
son-in-law Andrew Fogarty.(Fallowfield area). I suspect that Margaret Berrigan's 
brothers were John, James and Thomas who also farmed on Concession III, 
lot 21, just north of the Kennedy's. I say this as only a guess because of the 
close relationships of the above titled names and their fixed abodes.

I think your suspicion is correct. John Berrigan & Ann Cummins Berrigan had 
six children, in this order: Mary (1829-1915), John (1831-1919), Margaret 
(1834 or 1839-1877), Michael (1833-?), James (1803-1904), and Thomas (1847-1917).

Margaret was my great-grandmother; she died shortly after giving birth to my 
grandfather, Francis (Frank), and her sister Mary raised him. 


Thomas Kennedy is my great grandfather. His brother James Kennedy was 
Desmond Kennedys grandfather. Desmond Kennedy wrote a book called 
the Kennedy Story. There will be some exerpts that will be attached at the 
bottom. What you have sent is very interesting, and I would like to pursue 
our interconnecting to piece together any additional information that will help 
fill the puzzle, keeping in mind, addressing Al Lewis at all times so he may 
keep his site updated. If it wasn't for him, we would have never connected.


Michael Joseph Kennedy, son of James Kennedy, married in 1904, Ellen 
Mary Brophy who was the daughter of Michael Brophy and Mary Fermoyle.
Mary Fermoyle's half sister Julia Fermoyle married Michaels brother Patrick 
Brophy. Their daughter Julia Brophy married Jermiah Berrigan.

I show lots of Marys and a Julia, but her married name would have been Burns 
or Byrnes...I think. I believe she may have been married twice. Will have to 
check that.

The Mary Fermoyle mentioned in your excerpt from Desmond Kennedy's story 
might have been related somehow to the John Fermoyle who married Margaret 
Berrigan, but if she came over in 1862 at 19 she was not part of the line for 
which I have records.  As I've mentioned earlier, John Berrigan & Ann Cummins 
Berrigan came over about 1832, and John Fermoyle emigated from Ireland 
6 to 8 years later


Looking forward to more contact. Take care guys
Taylor Kennedy
____________________________-
This is exciting, but a little confusing. I will dig out my genealogy files and 
try to pass on more information shortly. I will also contact my Kingston cousin, 
Mark Barnes, whose father did a lot of research on the Fermoyle family some 
years ago. Mark has sent me copies of many of his father's notes & charts but 
there apparently is a lot more in files at his mother's house. His mother is my 
Aunt Dorothy, my father's sister & youngest of Frank Fermoyle and Sarah Ann 
Coyle, my material grandparents. (Frank, as mentioned, was the youngest 
son of John & Margaret Fermoyle.

I also have quite a lot of information on a branch of the Fermoyle family 
descended from a Patrick Fermoyle (1848-1898), who came from Laois (Queens) 
County in Ireland and wound up in Minnesota. Since John Fermoyle & his 
brothers also came from there -- and since Patrick went first to Canada, in 
about 1857 -- he was probably related to the Nepean-area Fermoyles.

As I say, it's confusing...but very interesting, too.
... Ken

February 9, 2002
Good Day!

I am researching my Father's birth family, and you folks seem to have quite
a bit of information!  May I get a little of your background information?

Here is the line I am tracking:

Me:       Barry J. Fellner, II           1956 -
Father:        Barry J. Fermoyle Fellner      1929 - 2001    (adopted in
1938 by Matt Fellner after marriage to Ruth Craven)
GF:       John James Fermoyle      1903 - 1975     (married to Ruth Craven
at the time, but divorced later)
GGF:      John Berrigan Fermoyle                   (notes at home, I can't
remember his dates)
GGGF:          John Fermoyle             1825 - 1911    (married to
Margaret Berrigan)
May 8, 2002:
Hi,
 
Was having a look around the web when I stumbled upon some Fermoyle's and relations 
to Fermoyle's.  I am Dylan Fermoyle I live in Dublin, Ireland and would be happy to do 
some research on this side of the pond if any of you need me to.
 
Regards,
 
Dylan Fermoyle

Ottawa

1881 Census data: Surname FERNEY ... Note: Transcribed onto 1881 Census CD as FERNEY,
but could be either FERMOYLE or TIERNEY ... Al

	Census Place:	Nepean, Carleton, Ontario, Canada
	Source:	FHL Film 1375867  NAC C-13231  Dist 108  SubDist A  Div 3  Page 37  Family 158
	Sex	Marr	Age	Origin	Birthplace
John FERNEY	M	M	50	Irish	Ireland
	Occ:	Farmer	Religion:	Catholic	
Bridget FERNEY	F	M	47	Irish	Ontario
			Religion:	Catholic	
Thimithy FERNEY	M		24	Irish	Ontario
	Occ:	Farmer	Religion:	Catholic	
William FERNEY	M		21	Irish	Ontario
	Occ:	Farmer	Religion:	Catholic	
Ellen FERNEY	F		15	Irish	Ontario
			Religion:	Catholic	
Richard FERNEY	M		12	Irish	Ontario
			Religion:	Catholic	
Joseph FERNEY	M		11	Irish	Ontario
			Religion:	Catholic	
Ellen FERNEY	F	W	75	Irish	Ireland
			Religion:	Catholic	
January 4, 2003:
Hi, guys,
I got your e-mails about the Fermoyle genealogy & found it all very interesting. 
I have been super busy these past few weeks, however, and don't have time right 
now to provide the detailed replies your letters deserve. I'll do so ASAP.     
Please write a brief reminder note again if you don't hear from me in 12 or 14 days.

Al, you wrote: "I think that Bill mentioned that the Fermoyles left the area - there 
are 5 or 6 Fermoyles in the Ottawa 'phone book, who may or may not be descendants. I 
can't find their farm on the 1879 Nepean Map." I'm sure all the Fermoyles listed are 
cousins of mine, most probably offspring of Mike or John Fermoyle, who remained in 
the Ottawa area until their deaths some years ago. The farm location you mentioned 
sounds like the one described to me by my Aunt Dorothy.

Ken: Your info on the Fermoyle & Berrigan families was most interesting, too - and 
pretty much jibes with what I've learned  I am the eldest of the 3rd generation of 
Fermoyle born in North America in my branch of the family. I am descend from John & 
Ann (Cummins) Berrigan, who came over from Ireland circa 1832. My great greandfather, 
John Fermoyle, came to Canada about 6 years later & married their daughter Margaret. 
My granfather Frank (Francis) was their youngest child. Margaret died shortly after 
he was born. Frank married Annie (Sarah Ann) Coyle. My father Francis Ernest (Ernie) 
was their eldest - so I am the eldest son of the eldest son. Feeling some responsibility 
as a result of that got me started on family genealogy research about 10 years ago.

More later, guys, and feel free to fire questions at me - as long as you don't expect 
immediate answers every time. 8-)

I'm trying to finish a book that has been in the works for more than a decade, running 
an online bookstore, still writing articles, have started a mystery novel, have built 
& now webmaster a few websites in the past 6 months - and will be 76 come Feb.22. If 
you're interested, there's a lengthy interview an editor did with me last summer, 
complete with 3 photos taken in the psst 2 years & 1 (the first) taken about 1998. 
It's at: www.ioba.org/newsletter/V8/fermoyle.html
Or visit my online bookstore at the first URL listed below.

Now I'm off to bed...

Take care, 
Ken
 
Ken Fermoyle, proprietor
Fermoyle Books - Our Specialties:
Mystery 1st Editions (many signed)
plus Women Authors, Vietnam War, 
22250 Capulin Court, Woodland Hills, CA 91364
818/346-9384 - kfermoyle@earthlink.net

___________________________________________________

also posted on January 4, 2003:
Thanks to Ken (Eagle-Eye) Armstrong for the following. He knows a lot about
finding information from the 1881 Census:

Hi Everyone;
 
Noticed that you are looking for Census information on the Fermoyles, well I came 
across this one while searching the 1881 Census, and it looked rather interesting, 
and in fact I think that it is the 1881 Census information for "John Fermoyle and 
family. The transcriber probably had difficulty reading the last childs name, as 
it should have been Francis and the age fits with his birthdate of 1877, check it out:
 
Census 1881: Place:Nepean, Carleton, Ontario, Canada 
Source: FHL Film 1375867 NAC C-13231 Dist 108 SubDist A Div 3 Page 19, Family 81:

John PENNOYLE, Male, Widower, Age 52, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Occ: Farmer, Religion: Catholic 

Thomas PENNOYLE, Male, Age 20, Origin Irish, Born USA, Occ: Laborer, Religion: Catholic 

John PENNOYLE, Male, Age 18, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Laborer, Religion: Catholic 

Patrick PENNOYLE, Male, Age 16, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Laborer, Religion: Catholic 

James PENNOYLE, Male, Age 15, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Laborer, Religion: Catholic 

Marcy PENNOYLE, Female, Age 13, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Religion: Catholic 

Michel PENNOYLE, Male, Age 11, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Religion: Catholic 

William FENMOYLE, Male, Age 8, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Religion: Catholic 

Margrette FENMOYLE, Female, Age 6, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Religion: Catholic 

Aeries FENMOYLE, Male, Age 4, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Religion: Catholic 

I also found several Tierneys, but spelled as "TEARNY" and several "BERGEN' and 
one "BERCAGAN" which turned out to be the Berrigans, as follows:

Census 1881: Place: Nepean, Carleton, Ontario, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375867  NAC C-13231  Dist 108  SubDist A  Div 3  Page 9
Family 42:
William BERCAGAN, Male, Married, Age 66, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Occ: Farmer, Catholic
Norah BERCAGAN, Female, Married, Age 66, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Catholic 
Dennis BERCAGAN, Male, Age 27, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Farmer, Catholic
John BERCAGAN, Male, Age 24, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Farmer, Catholic
Thimity CARRIAGAN, Male, Married, Age 39, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Jobbers, Catholic
Marcy Ann CARRIAGAN, Female, Married, Age 32, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
Peter CARRIAGAN, Male, Age 6, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
Margrett Ann CARRIAGAN, Female, Age 5, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
Marcy CARRIAGAN, Female, Age 3, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
Michel CARRIAGAN, Male, Age less than 1, Born: Aug; 7/12, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic

NOTE 1: This William Berrigan (son of Michael Berrigan and Mary Quigley) and 
Hanora Maher, and their daughter Mary Ann Berrigan married to Timothy Carrigan 
plus their children.

Census 1881: Place: Nepean, Carleton, Ontario, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375867  NAC C-13231  Dist 108  SubDist A  Div 3  Page 10
Family 43:
Dennis BERGEN, Male, Married, Age 60, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Occ: Farmer, Catholic
Catherin BERGEN, Female, Married, Age 48, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
Margrette Ann BERGEN, Female, Age 16, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic 
James BERGEN, Male, Age 14, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic 
Dennis BERGEN, Male, Age 11, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
Mary BERGEN, Female, Age 8, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic
John BERGEN, Male, Age 4, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic

NOTE 2: This is Dennis Berrigan and Catherine Nash (I think), and Dennis is a son to Michael Berrigan and Mary Quigley.

Census 1881: Place: Nepean, Carleton, Ontario, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375867  NAC C-13231  Dist 108  SubDist A  Div 3  Page 11
Family 48:
Dennis BERGEN, Male, Married, Age 35, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Occ: Farmer, Catholic 
Mary BERGEN, Female, Married, Age 25, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic 
Martin BERGEN, Male, Age 3, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic 
James BERGEN, Male, Age 1, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Catholic

NOTE 3: I think this is Dennis Berrigan and Mary Kealey and family, and 
Dennis Berrigan is a son of Martin Berrigan and Mary Margaret Whalen, and Martin 
Berrigan is a son of Michael Berrigan and Mary Quigley.

Census 1881 : Place: Nepean, Carleton, Ontario, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375867  NAC C-13231  Dist 108  SubDist A  Div 3  Page 41
Family 173:
John BERRIGAN, Male, Age 45, Origin Irish, Born Ontario, Occ: Farmer, Catholic 
Ann BERRIGAN, Female, Widow, Age 73, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Catholic 
James BERRIGAN, Male, Age 32, Origin Irish, Born Ireland, Occ: Farmer, Catholic

NOTE 4: I think this is John Berrigan (Son of John Berrigan, Sr. and Ann Cummins) 
and his Mother Ann Cummins and brother James Berrigan, and John Berrigan, Sr. 
is a son of Michael Berrigan and Mary Quigley.

Hope I have helped a little bit with the information.

Ken Armstrong
 November 11, 2004:

Thanks to Kathy Adamson for the following:

Hi All:
Going over some notes in my records came across
m.24-Nov-1891, St Patrick's, Ottawa
Michael Fermoyle s/o John Fermoyle & Margaret Bergin and Catherine O'Meara 
d/o Daniel O'Meara & Margaret Hogan.
 
I assume Margaret is daughter of John Bergin/Ann Cummings. Margaret on 
1852 census 15 next birthday b circa 1836-37.
Kathy Adamson

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