Al
Thanks for replying. 
Some information on my Fox ancestors that I have gathered so far.

My ggrandfather and ggrandmother were James Fox and Johanna Sexton. They
came from Cork(emigration petition was signed at Liscarrol Parish, Cork).
They left Ireland in 1825 on the ship "Albion" with Peter Robinson settlers
and took up land on Conc. 11 in Emily Township, Victoria County near today's
Lindsay and the village of Downeyville. They kept the old Gaelic name
"Sionnach" until the 1830's (though variations on the spelling included
Shenock, Shenig, Shennick). They were listed as "Shinig" in the 1826
Newcastle District census. By the time of the 1839 Newcastle District
census, they were referred to as "Fox".

Two other families with same name came over at the same time but were not
listed on ship's lists (see below).I know this because these families ended
up on lands adjacent to James and Johanna and were referred to as Thomas
Shinig and Pat Shinig in the 1826 census.My research of census, land titles,
church records etc suggest that Pat was a brother to James and Thomas may
have been the much older older brother or even the parent of both James and
Pat...I suspect the latter even though I know that older folks were not
supposed to join the migration.

Re: the alias situation...my guess...Pat came over as Darby Guinea and
Thomas came over as Regan (other researchers seem to have suggested this and
review of my family's records since then would confirm.)


Yes add me to contact list and hope we can continue to share. 

Bryan 

PS I am looking for information on another side of my family... Patrick
Murray my ggrandfather who settled in Ops Township, Victoria County but I
can't seem to trace back beyond the 1860's. If you have contacts with Murray
families, please let me know. 
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At 09:10 AM 1/10/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Bryan:
>
>Thanks for your e-mail regarding the FOX family.
>
>This is an interesting story - I've just begun to look into it, and maybe
>you can help me out.
>
>The FOX family is tied in with a family named SHENECK / SHENICK according to Carol
>Bennett's book "The Peter Robinson Settlers". It is an anglicized version of the
>Gaelic word for Fox.
>
>It's tricky, because the Sheneck families travelled to Canada under that
>name and then changed the name to Fox in Canada. Some of these people used
>aliases - they're tied in somehow with the REGAN family and also with some
>other families who came to the Ottawa area in 1823, some of whom also used
>aliases.
>
>Before I spend a lot of time looking into this, can you add any details? I'd
>like to start another web page for this family, based on what we have now,
>what we find out, and I'll add your e-mail address to the page as a contact
>for other researchers - if this is OK with you.
>
>I have no information on the MORE surname list. There are some web pages
>dedicated to the 1825 Peterborough area PR settlers and they may have some
>information on the FOX / SHENECK families.
>
>... Al
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "bryan tisdale" 
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:08 PM
>Subject: Surname list - by Michael More Ottawa
>
>
>> Have just visited your website...would like to contact Michael More who I
>> believe is your area (Ottawa Genealogical) No luck getting to their site.
>> Can you help?
>> I'm looking for info on my family...the Fox's... Peter Robinson
>settlers...
>> 1825 to Emily Township, Victoria Co. Ont. from Cork Ireland. The above
>> mentioned surname list by Michael More had the names of my ggrandparents.
>>
>> Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Bryan Tisdale
December 27, 2003:
 Al
We corresponded awhile back when I was researching the Fox side of my
family  history (Peter Robinson settlers 1825, Emily Township, Ontario, Canada). 
I am now looking at  the Murray and O'Connor families. I received information 
from a distant  cousin in Michigan about my ggrandmother, Ellen O'Connor 
who married Patrick Murray. Ellen's sister, Mercy Frances O'Connor married 
John Burns and resided in Ottawa. John Burns was a wood carver and worked on the
Parliament  Buildings. They had two sons... Denis? and... James Joseph who died April
9, 1889 while studying at the seminary. Also, members of the McGuire family
(relatives of the O'Connors) resided with the Burns. Do you have any
information about this family?

Bryan
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Hi Bryan:
>
>Thanks for your e-mail.
.....
>
>In the meantime, does this marriage fit in with your folks?
>
>17 Sep 1852
>Baptism of Mary, born 7 September of the marriage of John Burns and Mary
>Connors
>Witnesses: Nicholas & Mary Ann Barry
>
>This record is from Notre Dame Church, the mother church in Ottawa.
>
>Also, while I think of it: Here is the first baptism recorded in the
>Catholic Church in Ottawa:
>
>16 Sep 1825
>Baptism of Mary, born on the 14th instant, legitimate daughter of Patrick
>Shunig (Gaelic for FOX) and Ellen Sullivan
>Witnesses: Thomas Shunig (Fox) and Mary Fitzgerald
>
>... Al Lewis,
________________________

Al

Thanks for replying.

Nothing as of now on Burns/Connors but the reference to Patrick Shunig is
interesting.

Patrick "Shinig" and Ellen "Sulavan" travelled under an assumed name from
Cork during the 1825 Robinson migration. My ggrandparents James "Shinig" and
Johanna Sexton came at the same time under their own names as they had a
"legitimate" embarkation certificate. Both families ended up settling on
adjacent lots in Emily Twp. Victoria County On. The third member of the
family who settled there was Thomas "Shenig"(according to records that date
back to 1826). By the 1840's/1850's they all used the surname Fox. The place
is still called Fox's Corners today.
 
St. Mary's Church Lindsay On. records Patrick Fox and Ellen "Sulavan" as
parents to daughter Jean, baptised Dec.1842; witnesses were Michael Geary
and Mary Fitzgerald. A distant U.S.cousin, who I have been in touch with,
has received info. from Ireland that a William Fitzgerald was a first cousin
to our family back in Ireland.. 

So what do you think? Did part of the family go up to Ottawa before finally
settling in Emily Twp.? 

Anything to suggest origins/parents etc. Right now, my research suggests the
family came from Liscarrol, County Cork.

Bryan 
September 8, 2004:
Bryan,
I just came across your email. Is the distant cousin in Michigan, USA? Tim R... 
or am I lucky enough to find another person interested in this family. Patrick 
and Ellen OConnor Murray are Tim and my ancestors also. We are descended through 
their son, Patrick who went to Wisconsin and then to Michigan. I would love to hear from you.
Carole 
cabazzell@yahoo.com
February 3, 2006:
Hi My name is Julie and James and Johanna Fox were also my gggrandparents.  
I live in Ops township.  My grandmother Rose M. Fox  (Giltenan) born in Downeyville, 
Ont. to James and Mary Fox (Commerford / Comerford).  I would love to hear from 
you regarding family history etc. 

... Julie
e-mail address: jeklynch@hotmail.com
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Julie:

I think that this family has connections to Osgoode Township in the 1840's.
They may be connected through the Comerford family who had connections to
the surnames DARCY and BELLINGHAM here.

Comerford's Smoke Shop on Bank Street in the 1950's? Possible.
... Al
 February 4, 2006:
I agree Al to the Osgoode, Gloucester connections.  The Murrays and O'Connors were 
residents in Bowesville area and I have letters from Patrick Murray who left to join 
his parents in Portugal Cove, Newfoundland.  His parents had previously settled in 
Bowesville (maybe moving there after Corkery area??)  Fox descendants lived in Manotick 
area ~ so did the Burns and of course, the Downeys.  This may be coincidental but....
I am not related directly to the Murrays but the letters I have were sent to John Foran 
a good friend of Patrick Murray Junior ~ not sure what his parents names were but he 
had a brother John Murray who married 1) Hanorah Foran and then 2) Mary Thompson ~ 
Martin Quinn was married to a O'Connors.
The Downeys and the Fox' from Bowesville/Manotick area are also related.
Do you think there is a connection?
... Mary Quinn
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Mary:

I suspect that the Mary Fitzgerald mentioned above is my GGGrandmother who later
married Patrick Christopher in 1835. Here is another connection from Notre Dame 
in Ottawa but I believe that all these folks mentioned in this record were
living near South Gloucester at the time:

20 Apr 1848
Baptism of Helena, born the 10th of the marriage of Laughlin Moran and Helen Comerford
Witnesses: Nicholas Foran & Mary Ann Nolan

There was a Fox family on the Manotick Station Road, near the Nick Adams Road today 
where my Burns ancestors lived. But they came from County Sligo and are buried at 
St. Brigit's.

I can't find the Comerfords in the 1881 census in this area although I know that
they lived in either North Osgoode or South Gloucester in the 1850's. They are listed in
some early records from Our Lady of the Visitation parish which Michael lent to me
to copy. (c. 1848 to 1854 time frame).

There is a John Burns mentioned earlier on this page. One of my Great Uncles was 
named John Burns from Osgoode. He disappeared from the farm in the 1850's 
and hasn't been heard from since. I'd like to know where he ended up.
... Al