Some Descendants of John KENNEDY and Margaret MANION
also Michael COPPS and Ellen MANION
John Kennedy is possibly ML# 427 on the McCabe List
Posted by Patricia Frey
Surname: Kennedy, Manion, O'Donnell
Have very sketchy info on Lawrence Kennedy of Carleton County, Huntley Township.
His father's name was John, mother's was Margaret (Margaret's last name was
difficult to read on Lawrence's death certificate but I think it's Manion). Lawrence
was born 5/7/1830 in Ontario and his second marriage was to Mary O'Donnell
around 1877-1879. All I know of his first marriage is the names of two sons-Joseph
and Hugh. If this is the correct Kennedy/Manion union, I have some info to share
on the family of Lawrence following their settling in North Dakota in 1879.
Posted by Mary Jane Moss
Dear Pat, I show John Kennedy m to Margaret Manion and the marriages
of two of their sons: Edward to Mary Lindsay in 1860 and Andrew to Sarah
O'Leary in 1867. The marriage record states that John was formerly of
County Tipperary, Ireland. I have further descendents of these marriages.
I also have Lawrence Kennedy married to Johanna O'Neil and the baptism
of two children, Lawrence Peter in 1865 and William James in 1868. Is this
the right time frame?
Two sons of my COPPS family moved to Walsh County, N.Dakota in 1880.
November 24, 2002:
Note: The Copps family lived in Fitzroy Township and attended St. Michael's RC
Church at Corkery.
Michael Copps was the original pioneer settler from Ireland. His son Michael Copps
and his daughter-in-law, Ellen Manion, are buried at Deep River in Renfrew County.
The COPPS Stadium in Hamilton, Ontario is named after this family. There was a COPPS
who was the mayor. Sheilah Copps, Heritage Minister in the Liberal Government is a
descendant.
Hello Al
Yes I remember visiting your site about 4 months ago in search for Kennedy.
You were very limited on the information as I was when I started my research
in Feb. 2000. I had to start with about 15 Kennedys existing and deceased.
Today approximately 150 Kennedys with another 80 still to insert into my
family pages. Names as Fogarty, Fallon, Costello, O'Grady, Taylor, Tierney,
Brophy etc. I have been trying to get back to Ottawa since May, 2000 for some
local visits of cemeteries and a lady decendent of the Tierney clan. She's about
80 and has a lot of stories on the Kennedys. Were you aware that the Kennedys
were in Canada prior to the Peter Robinson group? They arrived around 1820
with the Manions from Ireland. Were you aware of the book on the Kennedys
written by one of my relatives Desmond Kennedy? Were you aware that
Kennevale in Barhaven was named after the Kennedy's in Nepean as it runs
through the farm lands of James, William and Thomas's on conc. 3.
...Taylor Kennedy
Peter Robinson Settler in 1825 - Ship "Regulus"
KENNEDY
John 29
Margaret 30
Ellen 10
Mary 6
Honorah 1
Origin: Kilbolane, Cork
Location: lot 19, con 10, Huntley Twp
From Taylor Kennedy:
John Kennedy born about 1798, Tipperary, Ireland, married Margaret Manion
circa 1823, born in Ireland
1798. The history of John comes from secondary sources as well as Beldens
atlas of 1879 and Dr. Dunn’s
history of St. Michaels Parish in Corkery, published in 1924. Dr. Dunn’s
book gives his arrival as 1823.
The census returns for Huntley 1851 to 1901 indicate that John Kennedy’s
eldest son, Patrick was born in
Ireland, The census and Patrick’s death certificate, gives various years of
birth, the earliest being 1823,
making it possible for John Kennedy to have arrived in Canada in 1822.
The nominal role of the First Carleton Regiment of Militia, December 24,
1828, men aged 19-39 years, lists
No.446, John Kennedy, age 22, living in Huntley. John Kennedy that came with
Peter Robinson was 29.
In his last will and testament, John leaves a lot of land to his sons
describing the concessions and lots
whereas nothing is referred to Lot 19, Concession 10. The witnesses for the
Will were Patrick Egan, Joseph
Jamison and ………….ROBERT BURNS.
Six children, Patrick,Lawrence,John,Andrew,Edward,Catherine and maybe Mary.
This data disqualifies this John from sailing on The Regulus 1825. ?
Email Taylor Kennedy and Al Lewis
Taylor:
This is fascinating stuff. I'm really interested in your map of the Nepean
area. I began doing this but found it was too much work for me to add the
farm locations from the 1879 map, so I just made a general
map of Nepean.
My daughter and her family live at Kennevale - thanks for the origin of the
name. Things like this are important and not generally known.
Similarly about the Kennedys and Manions being here before the Peter
Robinson settlers. I think many of them are buried at the cemetery in South
March. Maybe the idea for the Peter Robinson settlement was even conceived
in our area. Maybe Capt. Burke put the idea into Peter Robinson's head. Who
knows (yet!). Burke was a man of influence here. He was born Catholic but
became Protestant in order to advance in the military. He is buried at St. Phillip's
in Richmond.
Is the Kennedy history book available for sale anywhere? I'd like to get a
copy. (Note from Taylor: "The Kennedy book is not a book that was written for sale
however the Nepean Historical Society has a copy there.").
Thanks again for your input. I look forward to hearing from you.
... Al
Hi Al
Seeing that you mentioned Potvin in your last e-mail, Andrew Edward Kennedy,
born 1880, West Huntley, son of John Kennedy and Mary Kelly married Rosie
Potvin 1911, in the parish of Saint Jean Baptiste in Ottawa who was the
daughter of Samuel Potvin and Marie Anne Robert.
John Kennedy born in 1830 is the son of John Kennedy and Margaret Manion of
Huntley. Take care
Taylor
More from Taylor:
Hi Al
I visited the information that you have posted regarding BEHAN, BROWN,
FINNERS & TEEVENS. I was especially interested in the witnesses who attended
the funerals. As you'll see below how they are inter-related.
Take care
Taylor
1) Edward Kennedy [son of John Kennedy & Margaret Manion], married Mary
Lindsey / Lindsay. In Edwards will, his sons, Joseph Parker, John Angus and James
Edward were awarded horses and equipment but there was no mention of his
married daughters Mary Behan and Emma Ryan.
Mary Behan [ Kennedy ] daughter of Edward Kennedy & Mary Lindsey married
Jeremiah Behan who is the son of Edward Behan and Ann McMahon
Emma Ryan [ Kennedy ] daughter of Edward Kennedy & Mary Lindsey married
Laurence Ryan son of John Ryan and Mary Gleeson / Gleason
2) Catherine Ann Kennedy [ daughter of John Kennedy & Margaret Manion ],
married James Vaughan. One of their children, Edward Vaughan, married Julia
Theresa Grace who is the daughter of Martin Grace and Bridget Devine .
When Julia died, Edward married Frances Devine ( daughter of James Devine ).
3) Andrew Kennedy [ son of John Kennedy & Margaret Manion ], married Sarah
O'Leary who is the daughter of ( Samuel O'Leary and Mary Conboy ). Their
daughter Bridget Onaugh Kennedy married Francis "Frank" Richard Forrest who
is the son of David Forrest and Ellen Foley ).
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Lawrence Kennedy, son of John Kennedy and Margaret Manion is mentioned
in the papers you have on your web site as one who was leaving with his herd
on the train for North Dakota in 1879.
Taylor
Here's more from Taylor (Jan. 8, 2001)
1 John Kennedy + Margaret Manion
2 Hugh Kennedy b.9 Sep. 1827 married Hanorah O'Grady , ( daughter of Michael
O'Grady & Judith Darcy) then married Hanora O'Grady ( daughter of Henry
O'Grady & Catherine Slattery) then married Catherine O'Malley ( daughter of
Michael O'Malley & Margaret Hamnough )
3 Son of Hugh and Hanorah O'Grady was Edward "Ned" Kennedy b. Aug. 11, 1876.
He married Margaret Dixon Oct. 2, 1905 ( daughter of Michael Dixon & Bridget
Conlon )
4 Their daughter, Gertrude Agatha Kennedy, b. Aug. 16, 1918, married James
Leo "Jimmy" Byrne who is the son of ( James Byrne & Mary Ann O'Heare )
O'HEARE could be AHEARN or O'HARE.
Edward "Ned" Kennedy's sister Catherine Ann "Kate" Kennedy married Thomas
Kennedy who was the son of ( Anthony Kennedy and Mary Ann Byrne )
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Sorry Al
The last e-mail regarding Edward "Ned" Kennedy and his sister Catherine are
children of Catherine O'Malley and not Hanorah O'Grady. Also Andrew Kennedy,
Edward & Catherine's brother married Mabel Brown. Also John Angus Kennedy
.. Taylor
May 17, 2002:
Hi Al
Here's a tombstone, Thomas Francis Kennedy and Lillian Whittaker, in St.
Patrick's Church Cemetery on Jockvale.
Thomas Francis Kennedy is the son of Thomas Kennedy and Catherine Kennedy.
Thomas Kennedy is the son of Anthony Kennedy and Mary Anne Byrne.
Catherine Kennedy is the daughter of Hugh Kennedy and Catherine O'Malley,
Hugh's 3rd wife. And Hugh is the son of John Kennedy and margaret Manion of
Huntley Township.
See also
Kennedys in Huntley Township
E-mail Taylor Kennedy and Al Lewis
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