1  	Michael Fagan	1817 - 1878
..		+Alice Hughes	1820 - 1893  (County Armagh)
.......	2  	Terrence Fagan	1840 - 1897
...........		+Margaret Carraher	1844 - 1912
.......	2  	Mary Fagan	1848 -


Some Descendants of Patrick FAGAN and Susan  SMITH			
	1  	Patrick Fagan	1845 - 1909
..		+Susan Smith	1850 - 1933
.......	2  	Terrence Fagan	1883 - 1902
.......	2  	John Fagan	1878 - 1907
.......	2  	Rachel Fagan	1880 - 1908
March 30, 2004:
Hello Shirley:

Thanks for your e-mail regarding early Fagans from Ireland.

The Fagans who came to the Ottawa area in Canada did come from the eastern
coast area of Ireland.
There seems to have been about a half dozen families who arrived here around
1828. The related surnames are Hughes, Fagan and McGee.
Also Casserly, I think.
A Charles Fagan came here from Hackettstown, County Wicklow. Another Fagan
family came from County Armagh, which is part of the hinterland of the port
of Drogheda.

I'm not sure if these families came directly from Ireland to Ottawa. The
Rideau Canal here was built between 1826 and 1832 and it attracted Irish
labourers, many of whom later took up farming in this area. One thing which
interests me is the common use of the name Terence among these families.
They all used it although it is rare among families who came here from other
counties in Ireland.

There were Fagans among a group who settled in Saint John, New Brunswick,
around 1818. There, the name Terence was also common.
The folks who settled in Saint John had been sea-faring and fishing people
from County Louth (around Carlingford). They took over the local inshore fishing
industry in Saint John - the fleet and the large seaside fish market.
(1820's). By the 1850's (I think) these fishing families were settled on
farm land inland in New Brunswick. They didn't take well to farming and many
of them went back to Saint John.
What struck me was the same family names which became concentrated in about
a half-dozen block area near the fish market in Saint John are the same
family names who concentrated in a small area here, called South Gloucester.
And they all continued to name their first sons "Terence".

... Al Lewis
Ottawa, Canada
January 31, 2005:
Mr. Lewis, 
 
I am doing family research on the Fagans from South Gloucester.  
Michael Fagan and Alice Hughes are my great, great grandparents.  I've 
researched all the records at their Parish....Our Lady of Visitation 
(now at the Mormon family history centre)  I'm curious where you got 
the information about where they were from in Ireland.  My dad says he 
was told they were from county Armagh but that's all I know.  Can you 
help in any way.....I'd be most appreciative.  
 
Laurie Fagan
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Hi Laurie:
 
Thanks for your e-mail.
 
I think that we are probably related somewhere out there.
I'm descended from the McGees at South Gloucester who are tied in with 
the Hughes and Fagans and many other families from South Gloucester.
 
I'm not sure where I got the county of origin for the Fagans. The Hughes 
and McGees definitely came from County Armagh. I'll try and find
exactly where in Armagh they originated. Possibly Keady, where the
McGees lived.
 
Before the church at South Gloucester was built, the baptisms, marriages, 
etc. were carried out at Notre Dame Cathedral downtown.
 
The Fagans, McGees and Hughes all show up at Notre Dame from about 1830 
until about 1848 when the records begin from Visitation. These old 
records name the parish of origin in Ireland for marriages. One of the 
first Fagans I have is from 1830, I think, and he's from Hackettstown, 
County Wicklow. He may or may not be one of your Fagans. I'll have to 
look through the Notre Dame records again to verify that some also came 
from Armagh. (A good chance!).
 
The McGees and Hughes also signed an 1829 petition to Colonel By, when 
the canal was being built. On it they list their Irish counties (Armagh) 
and their parishes in the old country. There are no Fagans on this list, 
though they may have been here in 1829.
 
Thanks again for this.
 
... Al Lewis
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Hi Laurie:
 
Here is a marriage record at Notre Dame in 1847.
 
15 Apr 1847
After one publication of banns, marriage of John McCartin of Gloucester, 
son of John McCartin and Bridget Fagan of County Armagh.
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Al and Michael, 
No problem sharing the information it might help solve the mystery.  
My grandfather was a son of Patrick Fagan and Suzan Smith.  
Patrick is one of the sons of Michael Fagan and Alice Hughes.  
My dad says his father told him that Michael came from county Armagh....(no town known). 
I'm not sure under what circumstances Michael came over....as in was he 
already married, did he come with other family members and if so what were 
there names.....did he work on the construction of the Rideau Canal.  
My dad thought he came over some time between 1828 and 1830. 
 
I'm going to the Mormons family centre on Tuesday to dig some more.  
 
Cheers. 
Laurie Fagan
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Hi Laurie and Michael:
 
At Notre Dame, one of the early Fagan families is listed as living at Hog's Back. 
There were many families who lived for a while, after the canal work was 
finished in 1832, at the lockstations at Hog's Back, Black Rapids and Long Island 
before taking up farms either in Gloucester/Osgoode or on the Nepean side. 
One of these days I'll put the names together as many of them were related.
The early Notre Dame records show some relationships between the Fagans and 
Daleys in the 1830's.
 
... Al
February 1, 2005:
Hi AL  ,  Hello  Laura  Fagan,   
The Fagan name , Cristopher Fagan  married Margaret Nash  sister to my mothers 
grandmother , Elizabeth [ Nash] Herbert, daughter of patrick Nash, and Margaret 
Blanchfield,  their family married into  james m, Agnes Daley.[mygrandfather's 
sister,] PATRICK , M CATHERINE O'Connor,Margaret jane , m.William Watters, 
Mary Ellen m. Frank O'Leary, Michael, m. Teresa Watters, John Christopher, m.
Ann Carrigan, Elizabeth , m .John  McEvoy. Steen and Charles ,B0TH DIED YOUNG , 
of Diptheria.  My wife is related  to another family., just to mention one, a 
Jim Fagan if I, recall a Jim Fagan, he married  Lizzie Fitzimins  daughter of 
John  Fitzimins (Fitzsimmons?) and Margaret Mury / Murry, Murray),  this brings 
the name Fagan into my wifes, family, the Thompson. ,     
there is no tombsone with the Fagan name in St, Brijid cemetery, but I 'm sure 
the're buried, as that is were the farm on the River Road,  I do recall meeting 
up with  those names ,   THE Fagans also  married into the Prescott Road Doyle.      
A  Moses  DOYLE  Married A  Catherine Fagan.     
Laura ,I would be happy to share info,     
Michael Daley. 
February 4, 2005:
HI, Al,  Taylor , LAURIE.
THANKS FOR THE INFO.   FROM  THE 1881 CENSUS  FOR OSGOODE,     
Michael Fagan  24 years , his wife , Mary age 19 years.,, Patrick age 34
his wife Susan, age 20,[ ?]    family Maryann,age 5 years Michael, age 4 
years , John Patrick  , 2 years  , Alan , under one year . 
Christopher Fagan age 50 years ,his wife Margaret [ NASH] Age 40 years , 
... Michael Daley
February 20, 2005:
Thanks to Michael Daley for the following:

HI AL  GAIL, LAURIE       
WOW, I'm trying to get this old head ,around the immense amount of information 
that confronts  me,  My file on Power. Fagan, you'll find on your By Town or Bust,
under John Power  and Catherine  Nolan.  compiled  by Maureen .  she visited here 
in 1989, we traded info, [ I presume you ,Gail, Kelly, have reviewed this file] 
[she has the big end, me Im like a cows tail Im always behind]   some notes on,
Gloucester Fagan's, 1881 census, family of  Martin age 68 ,and Bridget 60, Fagan, 
son William 27,Martin 20,Mathew 19,Margret 22,     
In Our Lady of Visitation Cemetary,  Michael Fagan, died June 2,1878 age 61,
his wife,Alice Hughs,died March 13,1893, age 73;   Terrance Fagan ,died Feb,5 
1897,age 57 , his wife Margaret Carraher died Nov 30,1912, age 68,   
the following appear to be brothers and sisters,   Michael Fagan,1877---`1958; 
Mary Ann Fagan , 1870 ---1920 wife of John Cahill, David Fagan ,1884-1927 ,
Patrick A, Fagan ,1883--1967,    ,Alice Fagan,wife of T,H, Crawford,1881-1967, 
--------------Ellen Fagen wife of Bernard Rooney died august 18, 1922, age 70 years 
[ Rooney of South Gloucester]  James Fagan,1890--1977,his wife Mary Elizabeth Fitzsimmons,
------Mary Ellen  Fagan 1872--1946  Wife of Francis Michael O'Leary---------------
Patrick Fagan, died may 13 ,1909,age 64, his wife Susan Smith,died May 1,1933,age 83, 
son Terrance died May 19, 1902 age 19,John died Nov, 5 1907,age 29, Rachel died 
Oct.17 ,1908, age 28 years.--------from 1881 census reads, John Fagan,age 23, his 
Mother , Alice ---  Fagan ,[widow] age 60 years born Ireland,  -----note, John Fagan ,
son of Christopher Fagan  and Margaret Nash died in 1947, husband to Anne Carrigan,   
-------------note ,Jack Fagan,married Anna Carrigan,daughter of John Carrigan, Rose Ann McGuire, 
Granddaughter of Patrick McGuire ,Mary Ann Nash,     

POWER   The name Powers in Ireland is among the sixty mostly commonly found in the 
country. It arrived  with the Anglo-Normans  in the twelfth century as Le Poer, 
especially into County Waterford where it is still frequently found .-------
The 1881 census for Gloucester Township  [South] registered, 5, households  with the 
name Power,  Thomas Powers,age 45,his wife Mary [McGEE] Powers age 46, son John, 
age 10, Miney [Mary]age 8 , Patrick age 3,------------
John Powers born ont. age 42.  [ son of William Powers and Rachel Ryan,]  and  
Ann born Ont. age 40 [Fagan] Powers,Catherine age 11, Alice age 9, Elizabeth age 7, 
John age 5,   -----------
Mathew Powers ,born Ireland,age 60,years,his wife, Mary----Powers born Ireland,age 
60 years,son John, born ontario age 21,  Margaret born ontario age 23 years. -------------
Patrick Powers age 64 years, born Ireland, his wife Norah, age 67 years, born Ireland ,  
sons Patrick ,30, John,28,Edward age 26, Martin age 23 and daughter Bridget age 21, born Ontario.
Michael  Power born Ontario age 35 years Julia Power, born Ontario age 26,    
[Sister or wife ?]   Note,    Anastaia Powers, wife of John , P,McEvoy of the 
Prescott Road, [Enniskerry] was the daughter  of Richard Powers , and Bridget Murphy,   
Some years ago in seach of family history ,I   visited Mrs,Michael Quinn, [nee Foran], 
daughter  of   William Foran, and Mary Powers.,,she informed me ,Anastaia [ Powers] McEvoy, 
was a sister to her Grandfather,  Thomas Powers , husband to Mary McGee .  I know I've 
come on board late , if you have all of this  just Delete, 

Michael Daley . 

See also the John Power page.   
_________________________
also posted on February 20, 2005, from Laurie:
 
Michael,  Al and Gail 
 
Thanks for the info.....actually Michael Fagan died June of 1876 (I chequed his 
death certificate with the province of Ontario)  I was at the Mormom family centre 
today and discovered that Michael Fagan and Alice Huges eldest son Terrence who died 
in 1897 is listed as being born in Ireland 
(if that is true that might explain why I can't find a marriage record for
Michael and Alice....because they were born in Ireland)   Michael do you have 
any information about where in Ireland Alice or Michael came from.  Or if 
either of them had brothers or sisters here.  I'm presuming if Terrance was born 
in Ireland in 1841 then they came after that (previously I assumed they came around 1830) 
 
Gail do you have any death records for Ann Fagan that might list where she was born.   
Where is she buried....in the Detroit area. Ann's brother Patrick is my father's 
grandfather.  My dad he remembers a Michael Power coming up to visit in Ottawa in 
the early 30's from Detroit driving a roadster to visit relatives on the farm in  
South Gloucester?  My dad and grandfather had a business called Fagan Motors in 
Ottawa and Michael pulled up in his roadster (my dad was really impressed) At the 
time he would have been about 22 or so years old.  Could this be for father? 
 
Laurie 
November 11, 2005:
Christopher FAGAN, Charles FAGAN

Dear Mr. Daley:  Here is the information that I have:  Charles Fagan married to 
Jane Cunningham, they were the parents of Christopher Fagan (born l831) who was 
married to Margaret Ann or Marguerite Nash.  I have no dates on either Charles or 
Jane, all I know according to my old notes is that they were born in Ireland.
I hope you can help me.  I was nice talking to you today.  Thanks!
... Pat O'Reilly 
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Hi Pat O'Reilly,  
Charles Fagan , his wife Jane ,  for 30 years  , Jane's maiden name, has been 
scribed as "Cousnieu".  "Corcorn", and now you say "Jane Cunningham ", Parents of  
Christopher Fagan , husband to Margaret  Nash, sister to my G,G,Grandmother, 
Elizabeth  [Nash]  wife of James Herbert, my notes say Charles Fagan  and a brother 
James  are from Co, Wicklow , Ireland,   Christopher Fagan , and Margaret Nash  
had family of 6 boys and 3 girls,  [correct me if i'm wrong,]  
your G, Grandfather,  Michael Fagan, married Teresa Watters,  born March the 22 
1885,   Daughter of  John and Catherine Watters,at St Patrick Church, Fallowfield 
June 18 i907,  
hope this helps, more info ,if needed     
... Michael Daley     
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Also posted on November 11, 2005:

Pat and Michael: Sorry, I'm a bit confused these days because of all the
inter-connections among all of our ancestors at South Gloucester.
I have continued this material on the Patrick Nash page.
... Al 
 July 18, 2008:

Dear Michael-

I got your email address from an email that Al Lewis sent me some time ago.  Recently 
I was looking at the Bytown or Bust website and reading emails regarding Fagans and 
Daleys from the Ottawa area and noticed one that you sent (Below): 

Hi Pat O'Reilly,  
Charles Fagan , his wife Jane ,  for 30 years  , Jane's maiden name, has been 
scribed as "Cousnieu".  "Corcorn", and now you say "Jane Cunningham ", Parents of  
Christopher Fagan , husband to Margaret  Nash, sister to my G,G,Grandmother, 
Elizabeth  [Nash]  wife of James Herbert, my notes say Charles Fagan  and a brother 
James  are from Co, Wicklow , Ireland,   Christopher Fagan , and Margaret Nash  
had family of 6 boys and 3 girls,  [correct me if i'm wrong,]  
your G, Grandfather,  Michael Fagan, married Teresa Watters,  born March the 22 
1885,   Daughter of  John and Catherine Watters,at St Patrick Church, Fallowfield 
June 18 i907,  
hope this helps, more info ,if needed     
... Michael Daley     

My great, great Grandfather is James Fagan, who married a Mary Daley (alia Doolin/Dooley).  
Below is their marriage information sent to me by Al Lewis 

7 Jan 1834
Bytown (now Ottawa) 
Marriage of James Fagan from the parish of Hackettstown, County Wicklow
and Mary Daley alias Doolin / Dooley of the Township of Osgoode
Witnesses: Peter Skeffington, Nicolas Brady & Rose Johnston (nee Hogan) 

You said in your email that Charles and James were brothers.  Do you have any more 
information on them?  James came from Hackettstown, which I understand is where Charles 
came from too.

Anything you could share with me would be greatly appreciated. 

Thank you,

Sara Zimmermann

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