Michael BURNS and Mary MILMORE
Greetings/bonjour
My grand-mother on my mother's side was a Burns: Mary Burns, daughter of
Michael Burns and Mary Milmore. They lived in Hull (Notre-Dame-de-Grace
Parish) in the 1890s. Mary Burns was married to Alphonse Cloutier (son
of Sévère Clouthier and Emilie Charron of Ottawa)
I am trying to find more about the couple Burns/Milmore). Any leads?
Mariette
August 15, 2001
Hi, I was born & raised in Maniwaki up to my teens! My relatives still reside.
As for myself I am descendant from the "Milmore" family which lived in a small village
north of Maniwaki.
My Grandmother's name was Catherine Milmore daughter of
Patrick Milmore & Theresa Muldool, which she married my Grandfather Cyrille Riendeau
in 1921.
They raised 3 boy's & a daughter which one of them was my
father J. Hebert Riendeau... My mother is french cdn. from
Gracefield...
Interesting. I am tracking down my roots on my grandfather was not too far from the
village you spoke of "Deleage".
He was born just north of that village called Riviere de st. Joseph.
I am heading to Maniwaki this week to visit my father's brother "my uncle".
January 29, 2002:
I found some info about a Milmore, not much and not what you wanted but
might be of some use.
I have in my tree a Milmore( no first name) who married Luke Nevins and had
a child Theresa Nevins born july 11, 1926. Theresa married Vital Hebert(born
Dec. 13 1914) Oct. 8 1949 in Maniwaki. They had 4 children. 3 boys and 1
girl.
Also on your Montcerf page you have Daniel McConnery Listed as being born
1895 (or could be 1896). It is 1905.
Visit my Site for more info in regards to Moncerf- Lytton and Maniwaki, and
some of the families that lived there. McConnery, O'Connor, McGee and more.
Sean McConnery
See also Maniwaki and Montcerf
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January 31, 2002:
Hi Sean:
Thanks for your e-mail regarding the Milmore folks. I've posted it to my web
site on the following page
www.bytown.net/milmore.htm
You've got a great web site there and I linked to it from my site.
By the way, I think that the Luke Nevins who you mention may be from the
farm next door to my Great-Grandparents in Osgoode Township. They were there
starting about 1840 and when my ancestor's log house burned down, they moved
a frame house in the winter, on a sled pulled by horses, from the Nevin farm
to my ancestor's property on Lot 4, Concession 4, Osgoode (the CHRISTOPHER
farm).
Thanks again!
... Al Lewis
February 23, 2002:
Hi Sean,
Visited your site & really enjoyed it. On my Montcerf page I listed
Daniel McConnery 1895 or (1896) - 1960
Husband of Veronica O'Connor 1905 - 1977
You claim that he was born in 1905 but when I checked out your McConnery
family tree I noticed that you have listed, as such:
7. Daniel 3 McConnery (John 2, Jack 1) was born November 27, 1905 in
Montcerf, Quebec & died there in 1960. However, in your "More about Daniel"
information you state in Fact 1 that he was Baptized in Gracefield on Dec.
15, 1895.
I could have made a mistake while recording the dates, as they are not
always clear but before I recheck, please confirm the above mentioned
discrepancy.
Yes, I remember Theresa Nevins as she was a close friend of my mother and
her children also came to school with me. I am not researching the Milmore
or Hebert family but I do have some info to pass on to any interested
parties.
Margaret Milmour married Luke Nevins and they had several children but I
only have information on two.
1.Theresa who married Vital Hébert
2.Gilbert (born in Maniwaki, Quebec in 1919 ) who married Noella
(Noelline)Nault. He worked as a lumberjack for the Canadian International
Paper (CIP) company and was also a truck driver and a bus driver. They still
live in Montcerf, Quebec. When Gilbert arrived in Montcerf, he bought the
property of Médard Vallières. Gilbert was also sat on the municipal council
there for 21 years. They had 7 children : one drowned at the age of 19.
On your site I noticed that you had a Marcelline Morrissette married to
Romeo Ethier. In the Archives at Montcerf, Book 1892 to 1920 07MN V17 SC
, page 24, I have a Marcelline Morrissette, widow of Romeo Ethier who
married Godfroy Bélisle (parents: Godfroy Bélisle and Rosanna Larocque) on
Dec. 27, 1919, at Montcerf,Quebec.
Hope this info helps.
Darlene Lannigan
April 30, 2002:
Hi Al, It's been long time since I last emailed you. Anyway I've made some headway on my
grandmother (Catherine Milmore). A little while back their was a person name Mariette who was
searching on a Burns/ Mary Milmore...
As fate would have it .... she was my grandmother's youngest sister. she was born in 1885 in
a place called Rigaud, Ste. Marthe, Vaudrueil, Quebec.....it's located between Ottawa & Montreal.
Thomas Milmore (Father)/ Catherine McGreevy(Mother).
They were a large family with brother & sisters along with cousins living near the same district/
farmers.
Thomas's father John arrived in the fall of 1835 with his wife Eleonor Conlin and raised a large
family on the farm.
My assumption that Catherine & Mary along with their uncles and other family members left Rigaud
and some came to the Ottawa region up towards Maniwaki to start a new life.
I hope this helps for Mariette..
cya later... Arnold. a.riendeau@sympatico.ca
Note: Last week I was at the National Archives reading through the Ottawa Tribune
for the 1850's. Father Deleage was an interesting man. After he left South Gloucester and
settled in Maniwaki he did a study of the Maniwaki area and surrounding townships along
the Gatineau River. He made a list of how good the land was for settlement in each
township and the number of new settlers who could be placed in such areas as Low, Wakefield,
Gracefield, etc. Then he took out advertisements in the Ottawa papers to try and attract
new people to his area. Perhaps the family from Rigaud (above) saw the ads in the paper.
... Al
January 30, 2003:
Hi Everybody, It's been awhile since our last correspondence.
Well I came across with info on my Grandmother Catherine Milmore...
She was born in Maniwaki in 1885 daughter of Patrick Milmore & Theresa Muldool...
Anyway I' ve came across my GGFather Patrick is the son of the lateGGGF
Owen Milmore who came to Canada via New York approx. 1848-1850 up to towards
South Gloucester. Anyway I 'am having difficulty of locating his wife's Maiden
name, all I have is that her first name was Catherine. They had three boys...
Owen jr. Robert and Patrick and not sure if they had any girls.
Anyway if someone can locate here maiden name would really appreciate it. (see February 9, 2004 ... Al)
thanks
... Arnold
February 9, 2004:
Hi Al, It's been long time since I last emailed you. Anyway I've made some headway
on my grandmother (Catherine Milmore). A little while back their was a person name
Mariette who was searching on a Burns/ Mary Milmore...
As fate would have it .... she was my grandmother's youngest sister. she was born
in 1885 in a place called Rigaud, Ste. Marthe, Vaudrueil, Quebec.....it's located
between Ottawa & Montreal.
Thomas Milmore (Father)/ Catherine McGreevy(Mother).
They were a large family with brother & sisters along with cousins living near the
same district/ farmers.
Thomas's father John arrived in the fall of 1835 with his wife Eleonor Conlin and
raised a large family on the farm.
My assumption that Catherine & Mary along with their uncles and other family
members left Rigaud and some came to the Ottawa region up towards Maniwaki to
start a new life.
I hope this helps for Mariette..
... Arnold.
a.riendeau@sympatico.ca
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Notre Dame, Bytown:
16 Aug 1853
After one publication of banns, marriage of Owen Milmore of Bytown, minor son
of Owen Milmor and Ann McDonough, to Catherine Wallace of Bytown, adult
daughter of the late Patrick Wallace and Catherine Walker
Witnesses: David Farley, Francois Xavier Daze & Alice Curry
25 May 1854
Baptism of Patrick, born today at Bytown, son of Owen Milmore and Catherine Wallace
Witnesses: Matt Milmore & Ellen Coughlin
May 17, 2004:
Holy cow, those Burns / Byrnes are everywhere.
In the 1851 agricultural census for Osgoode Township, next to the family of
Lawrence Burns, is an Owen Milmore, farmer, on the Manotick Station Road.
It's very likely that Michael Burns who married Mary Milmore was a son of my
Lawrence Burns and Margaret Doyle.
... Al
June 14, 2007:
Catherine (Kate) Burns (Catholic, born in Ste. Marthe, Quebec, aged 30), daughter of
Michael Burns and Mary Milmore, married John McIlraith / McIlwraith (Protestant,
aged 27), son of Stewart Bamford and Mary Brunette in May of 1912. Their marriage
licence is registered as # 006000. Owen Milmore shows up in the 1851 census of
Osgoode Township in the Manotick Station area.
... Al
August 24, 2007:
Hello all,
I have information on Owen Milmoe and his wife Honora McDonagh of Cloghoge Upper,
Aghanagh, County Sligo, Ireland who married in 1827 and had sons John,
Patrick, Owen and Matthew up to 1835. My last sighting of this family is on an
estate map of James Soden in 1844 on the eve of the Famine. My ancestors who
originated from the same place and were therefore certain to have been related,
came to the north East of England circa 1848 where the name become Milmore.
Best wishes,
Mr Terence Arthur,
England.
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Hello Al,
The name Milmoe/Milmo/Milmow etc was almost exclusively found in Co Sligo before
the Famine and was interchangeable with the name Mattimoe where they were mainly
to be found in Co Roscommon. Most of the Famine emigrants and those who left
earlier became known as Milmore or Mattimore and my ancestors were recorded in
both forms eventually becoming known as Milmore and Millmore, though a branch
of the same family settled for Mattimore. The late Colonel Cyril M Mattimoe who
died about 3 years ago aged 90 spent most of his life trying to figure out how
these names become interchangeable and was intrigued to learn from me that oral
tradition had made me aware of the fact still today.
I have been doing this research since 1991 and have many notes on the subject.
As I am quite certain that I am on the right track, the following is what I have
on the family.
31st January 1827:
Owen Mattimoe married Honora McDonagh at the catholic church of Boyle, Co Roscommon
witnessed by Martin Mattimoe and Terence McDonagh.
Children of Owen and Honora, all recorded in the baptismal registers of Aghanagh,
Co Sligo.
John Milmo: baptised 20th November 1827 sponsored by (page torn) and Catherine Mc------?
Patrick Milmo: baptised 17th September 1829 sponsored by Thady Milmo and Ann McCabe.
Owen Milmo: baptised 27th September 1832 sponsored by Catherine McDonagh (only one names)
Matthew Milmo: baptised 3rd February 1835 sponsored by John Milmo and Bridget Rankin.
NB; The John Milmo sponsor for Matthew Milmo was probably my 2x's great-grandfather.
"A map of the townland of West Cloughoge (sic) the property of James Soden by the
division of 1844 by Wm. Clarke, land surveyor, Sligo.
Plot No 5 (of 16) Owen Milmow 8a. 3r. 20p.
NB: West Cloughoge is officially know as Cloghoge Upper in the parish of Aghanagh,
Co Sligo.
I can't find this family in Ireland, Britain or the US after 1844. It is also worth
noting that the godfather of Owen Milmore junior's first child Patrick was Matt Milmore.
Best wishes,
Terence.
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Hi Terence:
Thanks for this great material.
While I think of it, in the 1851 census here for Osgoode Township, two other families
from County Sligo shows up -- surnames Fox and Herbert, some of whom came to this
area in the 1830's and some at the time of the famine. I'm related to the Herberts
and one of my Herbert cousins made a trip to County Sligo and "walked up the stairs
at the school attended by her gggrandfather", Alexander Herbert. (Hi Marian)
Also, I found another family of Milmores who settled in the Montreal area of Quebec.
They were neighbours of a McDonagh family. I think that the oldest man, born c. 1800,
was Bernard McDonagh -- he might even be Honora McDonagh's father. I'll have to check
into this later.
Thanks again.
... Al
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Hello Al,
No problem, that's why I sent it and I have much more. Usually when I see a Milmo(r)e
family I can find a location for them. Martin Milmore the sculptor who designed the
Soldiers and Sailors monument in Boston was another Milmoe who's name had the "r"
added. He was a famine immigrant from Kilmorgan, Co Sligo who arrived with his
widowed mother and siblings. Patrick Milmoe of Lisaneena, Co Sligo emigrated to Mexico
during the Famine where he prospered becoming one of the richest men in the country
and was known as Don Patricio Milmo, such was his influence that one of his daughters
married a Russian prince. I believe there is still a Milmo bank in Texas that he
and his brother Daniel founded.
You will get many hits on a Google.
Best wishes,
Terence
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