ONEIL, NEWCOMMON / NEWCOMBE and EAGLESON
Goulbourn Township, Ontario and Farrelton, Quebec, areas
Eagleson's Corners (now part of Kanata)
December 17, 2004:
I just tripped across your site. I wonder if there is a family link?
I do not know a lot about my grandparents, both decesaed for about 20 years.
My father was born in Ottawa in 1917 of parents Jack (John) O'Neil and Lucy.
My grandfather came to Ottawa from Albany NY, USA in the early 1900s.
Lucy was his 2nd wife. Any insight would be appreciated.
John O'Neil
email: john.oneil@sympatico.ca
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I can add a little info related to my mother's side of my family.
My Grandfather Albert Eagleson, owned a large farm at what is now the corner
of Eagleson Road and Robertson Road (Hazeldean). The farm was sold in
about 1930 when the family moved to Ottawa to the Hintonburg area.
My grandmother's name was Francis Newcommon and she was born and
raised on a farm at Farrelton Que. She was related to the Kennedy family
who also had property in or around Farrelton. My grandfather had a number
of brothers: Preston Eagleson, a senior officer of the NRC; another was a
United Church Minister in the Stittsville / Fallowfield area
(name may have been Richard or John). I have some genealogy info. around
my house which I will dig up and send you if you are interested.
I know there are family connections in the Ottawa area to pioneer families
in the Stittsville / Hazeldean area.
John o'Neil
email: john.oneil@sympatico.ca
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John:
Many of the pioneer families on the Ontario side had friends and
relatives in the Gatineau area. Do you mind if I start a new page
on my web site for these folks?
Newcommon may have been transcribed as Newcombe (below). This Newcombe
family were neighbours of a Kennedy family in the Farrelton area in 1881:
1881 Census Place: Wakefield, Ottawa, Quebec, Canada
Source: FHL Film 1375861 NAC C-13225 Dist 97 SubDist FF Div 2 Page 8 Family 28
Sex Marr Age Origin Birthplace
Joseph NEWCOMBE M M 48 Irish Ireland
Occ: Farmer Religion: Methodist
Matilda NEWCOMBE F M 44 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
William NEWCOMBE M 21 Irish Quebec
Occ: Farmer Religion: Methodist
Matilda NEWCOMBE F 19 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Joseph NEWCOMBE M 18 Irish Quebec
Occ: Farmer Son Religion: Methodist
Mary Ann NEWCOMBE F 16 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Harman NEWCOMBE M 14 Irish Quebec
Occ: Farmer Son Religion: Methodist
Margaret NEWCOMBE F 12 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Jane E. NEWCOMBE F 9 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Albert NEWCOMBE M 7 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Eanoche NEWCOMBE M 5 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Samuel K.F. NEWCOMBE M 3 Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Roy NEWCOMBE M Less than 1, Irish Quebec
Religion: Methodist
Born: Jul; 8/12
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Al: I don't mind at all. I would hope to build on it.
I know ny mother and her siblings - (Harold - who died at 12 on the farm from a
horse kick to the chest, Everet and Muriel went to the little one room school
house at Hazeldean on HWY 7. It survived until about 15 years ago.
The family also went to Stittsville (Wesley) United Church and later attended Parkdale
United Church.
You are absolutely right. I do recall Newcombe became Newcommon.
One of these names is likely my Grandmother's parents.
I do not know if my grandfather was born in Albany. Possibly Auburn, NY.
John
December 18, 2004:
Obituary from the Ottawa Citizen, November 1952
January 21, 2006:
Thanks to Robert Sample for the following:
Hi Folks: I have been watching this Newcombe info on your site Al and trying to
find out a source of info to see if the Newcombes of Goulbourn twp. were related.
I have now been assured by the husband of a Granddaughter of Albert Newcombe that
this is the Goulbourn Albert Newcombe's ancestors. Albert Newcombe moved to Conc. 2
abt lot 9 of Goulbourn twp and his son Roy sold the farm about 30 yrs ago.
I have added a bit of info to what you have on your site Al.
I am also attaching a picture of Porter's barn raising in abt 1931 in which you
will find Albert Newcombe. I have wrongly stated in the picture that this was on
lot 10 conc. 3. I think it is likely lot 11. (picture to follow ... Al)
Descendants of Joseph Newcombe
1 Joseph Newcombe b: Abt. 1833 in Info Al Lewis Bitown or Bust site. Date of birth from 1881 census, Wakefield, Quebec
.. +Matilda Margaret Mullen b: 1835 in Quebec
........ 2 William Newcombe b: Abt. 1860 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 Matilda Newcombe b: Abt. 1862 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 Joseph Newcombe b: Abt. 1863 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
............ +Unknown Unknown
........ 2 Mary Ann Newcombe b: Abt. 1865 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 Harmon Newcombe b: Abt. 1867 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 David Newcombe b: February 09, 1867 in Info RB d: March 23, 1867
........ 2 Margaret Newcombe b: Abt. 1869 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 Jane E. Newcombe b: Abt. 1872
........ 2 Albert Newcombe b: August 06, 1873 d: December 13, 1940 Burial: Munster Union
Cemetery, Ontario
............ +Martha Anne Kettles b: March 13, 1876 d: August 30, 1950 Burial: Munster
Union Cemetery, Ontario m: 1900 in Stittsville, Ont. Father: William Kettles Mother: Catherine Montgomery
........ 2 Eanoche Newcombe b: Abt. 1876 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 Samuel K.F. Newcombe b: Abt. 1878 in Date from 1881 Wakefield census
........ 2 Roy Newcombe b: Abt. 1880
Robert has later generations.
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Hello Al,
R.B. Sample has been in contact with both of us and my wife, Gladys, is a descendant of
Albert (Newcommon) Newcombe and Martha Kettles. Yes the Carleton Newcombes are
the same family as the Wakefield, Quebec Newcommons. Obviously the name change
occurred before 1881 as evidenced by the 1881 census.
You can find most of the Newcombes from the 1881 census on the 1901 census
which is online. Simply enquire a search for 'Newcombe ?'. As this indicates
there was still uncertainty about Newcommon and Newcombe at that time. Gladys
says she remebers controversy about their name from her childhood.
Rae
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Thanks Robert, Rae and Al. I have had a little correspondence with Al on my family
history but have yet to have much time to work on it. I think there are some common
threads here.
My maternal grandmother (Frances Eagleson married Albert Eagelson about 1906 and
settled on his family farm which was located at what is now the corner of
Robertson Rd. and Eagleson Road. The red brick farmhouse was still standing there
until about the 1960s. My grandfather sold the farm about 1930 and moved to Ottawa
where he started a furniture moving business. They lived for over 30 years at
127 Hinton Ave. and next door to them were 2 sisters somehow related. I recall one
of their names was Velma. One had been married and the other never married and they
lived on Hinton Ave. many years into very old age.
Frances Eagleson was a Newcommon and grew up on a farm at Farrelton, just outside
Wakefield. Frances' father was crippled (with arthritis I believe) and could not
work his farm. He did not have sons (as I recall) and had 2 hired men work the
farm. One of these was Willie Kennedy, who eventually took over the farm and he
married Margaret. Margaret Kennedy lived in Wakefield into very old age and has
died within the past 20 years.
... John O'Neil
January 22, 2006:
Hi Folks: I did a check on Scott Naylor's site and Munster Union Cemetery has
the Newcombe family from Goulbourn. That is the only place on Scott Naylor's site
that that name appears. I then tried Newcommon and found the following on Scott
Naylor's site. If I am correct that this is the same family, it would seem that
Albert Newcombe changed his name. Oral history has it that Albert was a Mill Right
and came to Goulbourn from the Quebec Side of the Ottawa River. I will leave the
research up to members of the family to do but I would really appreciate receiving
your findings. Thanks all.
... Robert Sample
1. Hall Cemetery
Imeson Edith F. Newcommon Cross, Leslie Gorden Cross, ... Margaret Cross Newcommon,
Daisy Margaret Florence & Roy Newcommon, E. Margaret Stephen & Janet Newcommon,
Harmon King Ellen
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~snaylor/GatineauCounty/WakefieldTownshi...
2. Rupert Union Cemetery
Richmond E.Pearl Newcommon Davidson, Robert M.Margaret H ... Woodburn, Wilma Isobel
Newcommon, J. Herbert Gertrude A. Wills Newcommon, Stephen Janet McDavidson Newcommon,
William R. O'Hara
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~snaylor/GatineauCounty/WakefieldTownshi...
3. Low United Cemetery
V.Bertha L. Newcommon Barton, George Unknown Barton, John ... G. Nelson Mabel Newcommon,
Delbert Nelson, Doris Pearl Fitzpatrick ... Murdock, Joseph Nelson Newcommon, Samuel K. F.Lucy
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~snaylor/GatineauCounty/LowTwp/LowUnit/L...
4. Maple Grove Cemetery, Kanata, Ontario
These Pictures of the Maple Grove Cemetery, Grave Markers were taken on Oct 25, 2001
By Scott Naylor The pictures below are Thumbnails....!
April 13, 2009:
I am back at the research after a lot hiatus. Will be going to Ireland in May to find out
what I can in Ballymena.
FYI one of my grandfather's (Albert E. Eagelson) b. 10 June 1876 d. Nov. 1952 buried in
Pinecrest Cemetary with many other Eaglesons) sister's (Annie JAne b. Feb. 18,1866) married
John Flewellyn.
Albert's parents were William Bell Eagleson and Mary Ann Shore. William was born in Ballymena
Ireland 24 Oct. 1826, emigrated to CAnada 1852, married Mary Ann in Carleton County 1855 and
settled on farm at what is now corner of Hazeldean Rd and Eagleson Rd (Eagleson's Corners).
After his death, his son Albert continued to operate the farm until he sold it in 1924.
... John O'Neil
e-mail: john.oneil@sympatico.ca
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